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    I think the Islanders have got a real good one in Ryan Strome. Brock Nelson has been looking great too. They finally have at least two legitimate top line prospects who could also play the second line center role. Vanek, if he sticks around, could give them a pretty nice top six by as early as next year, and allow guys like Okposo, Clutterbuck and Nielsen to play in their proper roles rather tan being forced into scoring roles they're not made for.

    Despite a few really bad draft blunders, they've had a few good ones too, but I suspect after the Vanek trade, if they don't make the playoffs, Garth Snow might be finished there, especially if Vanek doesn't re-sign, and especially if the pick they traded ends up being a lottery pick.

    The one very admirable thing about the job Snow has done there, has been waiting on prospects. Despite badly needing to inject skill into the roster both to help the team and to draw fans, he hasn't tried to force prospects in before they've been ready (with the exception of Niederreiter), and look at the result: they've got two potential all-star forwards in Nelson and Strome, another couple good forward prospects in Anders Lee and Taylor Cammarata, and their pool of D-prospects is among the best in the league, including five that have some capacity of potential to be top four defensemen: Reinhart, Pokka, Pulock, Donovan and Pelech. As for goalies, there's plenty of guys with potential, but as of right now doesn't seem to be any one clear heir apparent to Nabakov; they need to address that within the next couple years unless one of the guys in the system steps up.

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    Agreed, the Islanders have more than a decent cupboard of high-level prospects with a lot of promise. Along with Buffalo, they're one of the East's best stocked teams for the near future.

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    • #3
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      I was gonna say, the one place I worry about the Islanders is in net. Nabokov has got to be close to retiring and I'm not convinced Poulin is ready to make 60+ starts.

      They have a good overall team coming together - significant scoring threats in the top 6 and plenty of speed and checking in the bottom 6. Andrew MacDonald is underrated for what he brings to the team on D.

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      • #4
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        Apparently that pick can be a 2015 one if it ends up being top ten this season. Nonetheless, it was an overpayment, and apart from that, Snow really hasn't tried to take a step into contention. Well he did, back in 2007 and that backfired too. I agree that he shouldn't be the GM to take them past this season.

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        • #5
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          Another great prospect for the Islanders is center Viktor Crus-Rydberg. Man, are they ever stacked! Along with Nelson and Strome, I definitely think Taylor Cammarata becomes at least a second line forward. I don't know enough about Anders Lee to really even comment. Obviously Reinhart has amazing potential, but Ryan Pulock is having a beast of a year in the W this season and, with his size, he's an almost sure bet to become an NHLer.

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          • #6
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            Originally posted by Victor
            Apparently that pick can be a 2015 one if it ends up being top ten this season. Nonetheless, it was an overpayment, and apart from that, Snow really hasn't tried to take a step into contention. Well he did, back in 2007 and that backfired too. I agree that he shouldn't be the GM to take them past this season.
            Oh, I was not aware of that. But just confirmed on prosportstransactions.com and you are correct. That helps out Snow a bit. But still, if Vanek leaves this summer, they might very well miss the playoffs again next year, although with the development of kids like Strome, Nelson, De Haan and Donovan, I can't see them being a lottery team next year.

            Quite the game for the Islanders here this afternoon. Down 3-1 late to Philly and Brock Nelson scored a big goal to bring it within one before Okposo just tied the game on the PP with 3 minutes left.

            Josh, I'm curious why you're so high on Rydberg and Cammarata. Rydberg certainly has good potential, but it seems a bit too early to call him a sure bet, especially since he hasn't put up big numbers so far in his first year in the OHL. Cammarata has been putting up great numbers as a freshman for Minnesota, and has huge offensive upside, but with his size, he'd have to be considered something of a longshot at this point.

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            • #7
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              Well, for an 18 year-old on a pretty weak Plymouth team, I think Ryberg's numbers are decent. His playmaking skills and hockey IQ are top notch. Maybe it's just that he's my kind of player, but I think he has a real solid carreer ahead of him. As for Cammarata, wow, I definitely overlooked (or just didn't look at) his size. But he destroyed the USHL last year and has found great success at every level he's played at, so maybe he'll be one of the few who defies the odds.

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              • #8
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                As much as it hurts to be a Sens fan right now, how badly do you want Wang to sell and Snow to never make any decision for this franchise again, if you're an Islanders fan? Just looking at the past four trades of Snow's is like a big terrible joke.

                June 30, 2013
                Islanders trade Matt Moulson, 2014 1st Round Pick, 2015 2nd Round Pick to Buffalo Sabres for Thomas Vanek

                February 6, 2014
                Islanders trade Pierre-Marc Bouchard and Peter Regin to Chicago Blackhawks for 2014 4th Round Pick

                March 4, 2014
                Islanders trade Andrew MacDonald to Philadephia Flyers for Matt Mangene, 2014 3rd Round Pick, 2015 2nd Round Pick

                March 5, 2014
                Islanders trade Thomas Vanek to Montreal Canadiens for Sebastien Collberg

                If you put those four trades together, and cancel out the two 2015 2nd Round Picks (even though the one New York traded away is very likely to be a higher pick than the one they got from Montreal) it amounts to:

                Matt Moulson
                Andrew MacDonald
                Pierre-Marc Bouchard
                Peter Regin
                2014 1st Round Pick (will be between 2nd and 5th Overall)

                FOR

                Sebastien Collberg
                Matt Mangene
                2014 3rd Round Pick
                2014 4th Round Pick
                47 games and 44 points worth of Thomas Vanek

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                • #9
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                  2014 1st Round Pick (will be between 2nd and 5th Overall)

                  it has a condition so will be 2015 1st

                  still pretty brutal of course

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                  • #10
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                    No playoff success since 1993 :| and this was THE team in the eastern conference in the eighties. The ownership and management on the island contends for worst in the league. I just want to give John Tavares a big hug.

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                    • #11
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                      The sad thing about ownership and management is, they are actually marked improvements over their predecessors...

                      If you haven't seen the documentary on John Spano, it's actually very interesting and quite chilling to watch as a fan. It was on TSN a few weeks ago.

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                      • #12
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                        Originally posted by Matt the Aussie
                        The sad thing about ownership and management is, they are actually marked improvements over their predecessors...

                        If you haven't seen the documentary on John Spano, it's actually very interesting and quite chilling to watch as a fan. It was on TSN a few weeks ago.
                        Will certainly check this out. There have been some really great entries in the 30 for 30 series.

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                        • #13
                          Was looking for news or updates on Halak's injury status and accidentally came across this.


                          http://alongtheboards.com/2015/10/is...est-of-season/

                          I laughed hysterically at the part about Brian Strait and Slovakia.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by matchesmalone View Post
                            Was looking for news or updates on Halak's injury status and accidentally came across this.


                            http://alongtheboards.com/2015/10/is...est-of-season/

                            I laughed hysterically at the part about Brian Strait and Slovakia.
                            Hahhaha, that is a great piece!

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                            • #15
                              The Islanders might have suffered a big injury as captain John Tavares left the game late in the third period. Tavares fell awkwardly with 3:14 left while chasing a puck behind the Devils net, and immediately began clutching his left leg. He was helped off - TSN

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