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  • Crashing into the net

    Hi folks,

    So I guess I'll get straight to it. I despise seeing players crashing into the net!

    When I played minor hockey I was taught the unwritten rule to "always protect your goalie".

    I absolutely understand that crashing the net is a fundamental in hockey. Crashing into the net and goalie isn't or shouldn't be.

    In todays hockey we've moved the blue lines and removed the two line pass to promote a faster style of play. What this has done is make the game more exciting to watch. There have also been changes to players freedom on the ice. You can no longer impede or block a players movement without the puck. Hooking in the day was an essential part of defensive play. Players are called almost immediately once their stick is horizontal to another player. This too promotes exciting play. Though as exciting and entertaining this has shown to be, there are some consequences. Players are charging into to the net.

    Imagine a two on two zone entry. The puck carrier gets zoned to the outside while the other forward trying to get inside position on the opposing defence. The forward skates full speed towards the net in hopes of receiving a pass to tip in the net. In this situation it is who's responsibility to protect the goalie? The defence? The forward? The Goalie? The goalie does not have the puck. The defence cannot directly impede the forward from moving freely but can place him self between the goalie and the forward. The forward can pretty much do what he wants. From the accidental trip to outright I'll take one for the team.

    I feel the forward should have more responsibilities. He should be responsible for his body and avoiding any body contact with the goalie in his crease. I know that it is a very tightrope situation. You don't want to give players penalties for skating towards he net but you also want to protect the goalie.

    What I've been thinking about is when a player loses his footing and crashes into the net he should be given a 2 minute for goalie interference. If the defence trips up the player he gets 2 minutes. If the refs deem that the player was tripped but was also recklessly trying to get inside position on a defence they both go. I think something needs to be done. Right now they are letting that play go and putting the goalie the most vulnerable player in that situation at most risk.

    I love to watch goals like this:
    http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=620275

    And hate to see stuff like this:
    http://thehockeywriters.com/heard-th...into-a-goalie/
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdzIEW5XKgc

    Now because I am a Montreal fan, clearly this bothered me. What bothers me the most about the play. Is the defence is trying to dive to poke the puck. Yes Kreider is hit on the skate, but you can see from the slowed down portion. Kreider's sole focus in that moment is to take a shot. He doesn't care that he's not going to be able to stop in time. Or he chooses to get a shot rather than avoiding the contact.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G4IdpqvYtM

    Seeing shit like this just scares me. If we keep this up. Some day we will watch someone die because of players skating 30 km/h full speed into a goalie.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGFr0vtceCA

    Sorry my evidence is sort of weak but it's hard to find and I am rushing to finish this post.
    Last edited by Kephryn; 04-10-2015, 12:01 AM. Reason: Missing words

  • #2
    I agree with the basis of your points. In many, if not most cases it should be the responsibility of the forward to let up. However, what really makes me cringe is watching the defenseman dump/push/trip players ONTO his goalie. If I was the goalie or coach I would be LIVID with the defenseman who did that. You're right; those situations should be penalized and very rarely are.

    Great post and idea for a discussion.

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    • #3
      One angle that bothers me..is when the goalie is completely out of the blue paint..and doesn't become 'fair' play. I'm not sayiing that since he is/should be fair game, lets destroy them..but there should not be a 'interference' call if he gets run into and it leads him out of position.

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      • #4
        The annoying thing is how they don't call goaltender interference if they feel it was an accident. There's a group of players around the league who 'accidentally' slide into goalies. The most recently example I can think of is Couture (although Kreider made this famous). He did it against Price, and then did it the next game against Hammond. He wasn't touched, but fell and slid right into Hammond. Since it was an accident it wasn't called a penalty. If you accidentally trip a player, it's a penalty. If you accidentally high-stick a player, it's a penalty. So why isn't it the same for goaltender interference?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jasmine View Post
          One angle that bothers me..is when the goalie is completely out of the blue paint..and doesn't become 'fair' play. I'm not sayiing that since he is/should be fair game, lets destroy them..but there should not be a 'interference' call if he gets run into and it leads him out of position.
          Yeah, that's an important distinction - a goalie outside his crease should not even be considered to be interfered against. If a skater makes a blatant and unecessary push to attack the goalie though, then roughing should be called.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Alfie11 View Post
            The annoying thing is how they don't call goaltender interference if they feel it was an accident. There's a group of players around the league who 'accidentally' slide into goalies. The most recently example I can think of is Couture (although Kreider made this famous). He did it against Price, and then did it the next game against Hammond. He wasn't touched, but fell and slid right into Hammond. Since it was an accident it wasn't called a penalty. If you accidentally trip a player, it's a penalty. If you accidentally high-stick a player, it's a penalty. So why isn't it the same for goaltender interference?
            Yeah, Kephryn and I were discussing that same kind of circumstance over the phone earlier. He was remembering a game involving Calgary but neither of us could remember the specific players involved..

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            • #7
              So everyone agrees!

              The issue is the forward how has no consequences for recklessly crashing into the net.

              Both sides are doing it. Defensemen sometimes push players on their own goalies. That's just dumb.

              I think the worst part about all of these instances, no one knows if it will be called when they see it happen. Then the ref will pull out his wheel of fortune and make random calls depending on if the goalie gets hurt.

              Basically you're allowed unless he gets hurt.

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              • #8
                Hahaha, lol @ the wheel of fortune reference. You're right too that it seems to be based off injuries..

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                • #9
                  And who did it.......cause for some reasons, some players get away with it. We see a trend here (ie Couture, Kreider..) how is it that refs keep calling it 'an accident'?..

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