Coach throws Subban under the bus!

[Jasmine]

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/subban-blamed-therrien-loss-1.3452927

[Josh]

I was hoping for something a bit more dramatic that would indicate Therrien potentially getting fired.

Then again I probably shouldn't hope for that as a fan of a rival team. Therrien is valuable to Montreal's rivals :lol:

[Dean Ambrose]

I fucking hate this guy and his captain puppet

[Matt the Aussie]

Is no one going to give any love to Patches? Just sorta looks lost as Iginla is left wide open in the zone. I mean, at least Subban was trying.

[Alfie11]

Subban lost an edge and the other team scored, it happens.

Interestingly enough, depending who the player is, a play like this is either swept under the rug or talked about for the next week

[Dean Ambrose]

Is no one going to give any love to Patches? Just sorta looks lost as Iginla is left wide open in the zone. I mean, at least Subban was trying.

I hate this captain so much. Goes complete "controller disconnect" on the play and then ducks the media like a little bitch when Subban faced the brunt of it all like a true leader.

[thedaigle1]

Subban lost an edge and the other team scored, it happens.

I've been waiting for someone to say this. How does Colorado feel? You'd think Subban blew a tire and scored on his own net the way the media talks about this. Jarome Iginla has a HOF case for the record.

[Matt the Aussie]

I find it really interesting to compare Subban and Karlsson right now. Both are playing on mediocre teams this year. I do think Karlsson is better defensively but not to the point where he never makes any mistakes. Can you imagine if coach Cameron blurted out that Karlsson should stay back more and not try so many risky moves?

One thing about Subban is that he has a big ego to go along with the skill. I'm not sure this is how you should handle someone like this? I don't think 1 incident is enough but if this continues to happen and Therrien is not moved, does Subban save everyone the trouble?

[Matt the Aussie]

Wow...did I jinx Karlsson or what?!

[Dean Ambrose]

I find it really interesting to compare Subban and Karlsson right now. Both are playing on mediocre teams this year. I do think Karlsson is better defensively but not to the point where he never makes any mistakes. Can you imagine if coach Cameron blurted out that Karlsson should stay back more and not try so many risky moves?

One thing about Subban is that he has a big ego to go along with the skill. I'm not sure this is how you should handle someone like this? I don't think 1 incident is enough but if this continues to happen and Therrien is not moved, does Subban save everyone the trouble?

Subban is not going to go anywhere, and Geoff Molson won't let him go anywhere either.

Subban/Karlsson are very similar players. Two top-five defenseman, one is better offensively (Karlsson) and the other is better defensively (Subban, IMO), but they are both highly creative, highly skilled players who need free reign to do things because they're pretty much the offense for their team. It gets started with them. If Karlsson blew a tire or made a turnover on a GWG, I doubt any Sens coach would throw him under the bus. Why? Because they don't have an agenda (the French media has a huge vendetta against PK it seems, and part of me thinks it's a racial thing...), but not only that, but because of the type of player Karlsson is (and Subban) you take the rare bad spots that come with these types of players because of their skill. The good far outweighs the bad with these guys and you just have to let them be.

[Matt the Aussie]

Did you see last nights highlights? Karlsson promptly goes out and makes 2 mistakes that lead directly to both Detroit goals. Ottawa did eventually win the game, which I'm sure helps. But Im yet to hear any commentary saying Karlsson needs to change?

I do feel Subban draws a target on his own back sometimes with the over-confidence. That's one big difference between both players, Karlsson barely speaks and when he does it's about the team, making improvements etc.

Of course, if you listen to Cherry it's still Doughty that wins the Norris...

[Josh]

Subban is not going to go anywhere, and Geoff Molson won't let him go anywhere either.

Subban/Karlsson are very similar players. Two top-five defenseman, one is better offensively (Karlsson) and the other is better defensively (Subban, IMO), but they are both highly creative, highly skilled players who need free reign to do things because they're pretty much the offense for their team. It gets started with them. If Karlsson blew a tire or made a turnover on a GWG, I doubt any Sens coach would throw him under the bus. Why? Because they don't have an agenda (the French media has a huge vendetta against PK it seems, and part of me thinks it's a racial thing...), but not only that, but because of the type of player Karlsson is (and Subban) you take the rare bad spots that come with these types of players because of their skill. The good far outweighs the bad with these guys and you just have to let them be.

Good points. I think things would play out differently if they switched teams - Karlsson would be under the microscope after every mistake while Subban would, for the most part, be appreciated for his talents.