Report: Sens working on deal for Burrows

[Jasmine]

http://www.tsn.ca/report-sens-working-on-deal-for-burrows-1.682530

[Josh]

Maybe a straight swap for Lazar?

[Jasmine]

Nothing about what Ottawa is sending the other way yet...but apparently Burrows waived his no trade clause and a 2 year extension is also in the works....

Clarifying, Burrows and Sens extension 5M/2yr

- Aaron Ward

[Jasmine]

The #Sens are sending Johnathan Dahlen in return for Burrows.

Bruce Garrioch

[Alfie11]

I like the addition of Burrows. He's a good pest, will be a huge bottom six improvement. He does his job well.

The return, I'm not sure about. I really haven't been following the Sens prospects but Dahlen seemed good.

[Josh]

Nothing about what Ottawa is sending the other way yet...but apparently Burrows waived his no trade clause and a 2 year extension is also in the works....

- Aaron Ward

I read this as $5M per year at first. I thought it was WAY too much, but was getting used to swallowing that much for his help now and over the next two seasons.

Now I realize it's $5M over the 2 years - so $2.5M per. This is awesome.

[Dean Ambrose]

This is why GMs have been trying to fleece Dorion lmao. Dahlen for Burrows is so bad.

[Alfie11]

This is why GMs have been trying to fleece Dorion lmao. Dahlen for Burrows is so bad.

Is Dahlen that good, or is Burrows that bad?

[Dean Ambrose]

Is Dahlen that good, or is Burrows that bad?

Both.

Burrows is borderline waiver fodder and I've seen people who've watched Dahlen compare this trade to the Forsberg-Erat trade. He's a PPG player as a 19-yo in Sweden's second division.

This 2-year-deal is also insane - I have no idea why they rushed to do it. They can't honestly be using a keeper spot on Burrows. Maybe he's fodder to hit the requirement, but if he's actually protected... wtf lol

[matchesmalone]

Burrrr!!!!!

Oh my God! What an exciting time to be a Sens fan!

Boucher finally has this team playing like a playoff team, and now over the course of this season, Dorion has added Burrows and Wingels to the crop of young stars, while hardly giving up anything in terms of futures.

Both gritty veterans, with solid two-way play and some offensive ability. Watch Bocuher throw Hoffman on a line with Burrows and Stone with Wingels on the road come playoff time. This team is going to be a matchup NIGHTMARE for opponents.

I didn't bother to read other comments, I was so excited to come post, but I can see Rayzor's comment at the top of my screen so... Dahlen is a pretty good prospect, sure, but we've got enough depth of prospects, and some much better prospects, to be able to afford to give up one to help try to win this year. And to compare Dahlen to Forsberg is RIDICULOUS. Forsberg was a 10th (11th?) overall pick, Dahlen was a third rounder. If he does make the NHL, he's likely a well-rounded top nine forward with some skill.

Lets look at it this way, if I give you 20 dollars for 50 cents, but there is about a 50% chance that 50 cents becomes 20 dollars in a few years, and a 5% chance it becomes 100 dollars, would you do that trade? It would probably depend on your situation, right? If you're in a situation where you don't need to buy anything right now, but you want to invest for the future, it would make sense to take the 50 cents and hope, but if you're someone who is just a few dollars away from buying something really important in the immediate future, it would make sense to take the 20 dollars...

[matchesmalone]

I hated the Zibanejad trade - still not a huge fan of it, but I guess it's been fairly even - but I've loved the quiet moves he's made since. Nothing that's going to get a ton of attention, or excite many fans, but these are the kinds of things that win Stanley Cups.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, Wingels, Burrows, and Brassard have all been to the Cup Finals and lost. Meaning not only do they have the experience and know what it takes to get there, but they're going to be hungry to win it this time. Also he brought in Kelly, who has a Cup and a few Finals appearances.

[Alfie11]

Matches, how do you see the team doing in the playoffs?

I feel extremely confident that the Sens will make the playoffs (probably the most comfortable I've felt since 2007). They have 72 points, probably need around 94 so that's 22 points in 22 games (only Detroit isn't putting up a .500 points percentage in the East). You obviously don't know who you're playing ... but it looks like NYR if you win the division or Boston/Florida if you finish #2.

[matchesmalone]

I dunno man, the system and the team defense they're playing is extraordinary. Again, this is the kind of team that wins in the playoffs, and the players they've added recently are the kind of players that win in the playoffs. Now, being the kind of team that wins in the playoffs, and having the skill to win in the playoffs are obviously not the same thing, but Karlsson is arguably the best defenseman in the league, and a forward group featuring Turris, Hoffman, Ryan, Brassard, Smith, Stone... I think can at least compete with any team in the league. Certainly the Sens aren't going to go into the playoffs as favorites, but once the show starts, I honestly think they're a legitimate dark horse Cup contender.

[Josh]

Burrrr!!!!!

Oh my God! What an exciting time to be a Sens fan!

Boucher finally has this team playing like a playoff team, and now over the course of this season, Dorion has added Burrows and Wingels to the crop of young stars, while hardly giving up anything in terms of futures.

Both gritty veterans, with solid two-way play and some offensive ability. Watch Bocuher throw Hoffman on a line with Burrows and Stone with Wingels on the road come playoff time. This team is going to be a matchup NIGHTMARE for opponents.

I didn't bother to read other comments, I was so excited to come post, but I can see Rayzor's comment at the top of my screen so... Dahlen is a pretty good prospect, sure, but we've got enough depth of prospects, and some much better prospects, to be able to afford to give up one to help try to win this year. And to compare Dahlen to Forsberg is RIDICULOUS. Forsberg was a 10th (11th?) overall pick, Dahlen was a third rounder. If he does make the NHL, he's likely a well-rounded top nine forward with some skill.

Lets look at it this way, if I give you 20 dollars for 50 cents, but there is about a 50% chance that 50 cents becomes 20 dollars in a few years, and a 5% chance it becomes 100 dollars, would you do that trade? It would probably depend on your situation, right? If you're in a situation where you don't need to buy anything right now, but you want to invest for the future, it would make sense to take the 50 cents and hope, but if you're someone who is just a few dollars away from buying something really important in the immediate future, it would make sense to take the 20 dollars...

Interesting analogy. I like it.

[Matt the Aussie]

Another point that was brought up elsewhere - Sens have to expose at least 2 forwards who've reached a minimum number of games. Signing Burrows to an extension, minus the NTC, likely makes him one of those 2 forwards and saves us from having to potentially expose Smith, Pageau etc.