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  • Some UFA targets:

    Rickard Rakell
    Charlie Coyle
    TJ Oshie
    Alex Iafallo
    Matt Duchene
    Filip Forsberg
    Mikael Granlund
    Mats Zuccarello
    Patrice Bergeron
    Claude Giroux
    Joe Pavelski
    Bryan Rust
    J.T. Miller

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    • Some potential targets for pick 73 - Matthias Havelid, Tomas Hamara, Carter Mazur, Josh Bloom, Devin Kaplan, Ryan Greene, Julian Lutz, Jack Devine, Ludwig Persson, Cruz Lucius, Nicholas Moldenhauer.

      I am assuming Luneau, Casey, Sapovaliv, Goyette, Beck, Bystedt, Pickering, Zhilkin, Ingram are for sure gone.

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      • Gavin Hayes and Michael Buchinger look interesting for that range too. Cam Lund? Topi Ronni? Aleksanteri Kaskimaki? Jordan Dumais?

        Could Ty Nelson or Jani Nyman fall? Probably not.

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        • 1. Adam Ingram
          2. Devin Kaplan
          3. Danil Zhilkin
          4. Carter Mazur
          5. Matias Sapovaliv
          6. Filip Bystedt
          7. Julian Lutz
          8. Bryce McConnell-Barker
          9. Topi Ronni
          10. Cruz Lucius
          11. Tomas Hamara
          12. Ryan Greene
          13. Cam Lund
          14. Rieger Lorenz
          15. Topias Leinonen
          16. Tyler Brennan
          17. Gavin Hayes
          18. Michael Buchinger
          19. Oliver Johansson
          20. Maverick Lammoreux
          21. Josh Bloom
          22. Kasper Kulonummi
          23. Aleksanteri Kaskimaki
          24. Joel Nystrom
          25. Zach Ostapchuk

          Just missing the cut, will be top of the list for our 5th rounder:

          Jordan Dumais, Matthew Poitras, Ryan Tverberg, Elmeri Laakso, Nicholas Moldenhauer, Ludwig Persson, Jack Devine, Isiah George, Mats Lindgren, Paul Ludwinski, Jorian Donovan, Jere Lassila, Cole Spicer
          Last edited by matchesmalone; 06-15-2022, 10:10 AM.

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          • Woah. This is an interesting one. I've been raving about Odelius almost never making a mistake. Guess who steps up and forces the turnover on him here:

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            • Looked a little bit further still into McConnell-Barker's numbers throughout the year, and took a look at Hayes too. A few interesting tidbits.

              I mentioned Barker upped his p/g from 0.64 prior to Jan 25, to 0.8125 for the rest of the season, but further to that, he actually had 17 points in the final 17 games. Not such a great playoffs and I don't have any explanation for that but hoping he was just being used in more of a checking/shutdown role.

              Hayes went pointless for the first 11 games of the season, before suddenly exploding for 14 in the next 11, and then cooling off again. But still, that's 0.91 p/g after the first 11. His playoffs were even more interesting. He again went pointless for the first 6 games of playoffs, before putting up one assist in game 7, then busting out for 8 in 6 the following series, and then just 3 in 6 in the 3rd round.

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              • Cross Mazar, Tverberg, Ostapchuk, Dickinson, Bloom, Robertson off the list. Johansson, Melanson, Kos made it through but aren't old enough to sign so we'll just have to keep an eye out for next year. This leaves us with still a lot of names to consider. Of the drafted players who went unsigned, the most noteworthy names were re-drafted (Jack Thompson and Justin Sourdif), but Mitch Miller is interesting. So we still have a lot of names to consider offering contract to. The ones I am most excited about are Cicek, Nystrom, Salminen, Cederqvist, Fanti. I'll go through the rest of the names in the coming days here, but I feel like every one of them could be worth offering a contract.

                Nick Cicek (UFA)

                Joel Nystrom (2002)

                Trenton Bliss (UFA)

                Kyle Jackson (2002)

                Stephen Halliday (2002)

                Jordan Frasca (UFA)

                Lucas Edmonds (UFA)

                Jet Greaves (UFA)

                Arshdeep Bains (2002)

                Benjamin King (2002)

                Oskari Salminen (UFA)

                Calle Sjalin (UFA)

                Linus Oberg (UFA)

                Filip Cederqvist (UFA)

                Ryan Fanti (UFA)

                Lukas Sillinger (UFA)

                Viktor Lodin (UFA)

                Albert Sjoberg (2002)

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                • Tried to narrow down the list a bit further. Got it to 13. Tried to come up with some rough estimates of what each might require. Add Sjalin to the group I'm most excited about. And actually bump him ahead of Nystrom. Lodin isn't far behind.


                  Nick Cicek (UFA) - 995k

                  Joel Nystrom (2002) - 925k

                  Kyle Jackson (2002) - Where does he get drafted IRL? Same goes for the next three. 750k?

                  Stephen Halliday (2002) - 775k

                  Lucas Edmonds (UFA) - 750k

                  Benjamin King (2002) - 750k

                  Oskari Salminen (UFA) - 1.5

                  Calle Sjalin (UFA) - 1.25

                  Linus Oberg (UFA) - 925k

                  Filip Cederqvist (UFA) - 995k

                  Ryan Fanti (UFA) - 1.25

                  Lukas Sillinger (UFA) - 750k

                  Viktor Lodin (UFA) - 995k
                  Last edited by matchesmalone; 06-30-2022, 01:13 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by matchesmalone View Post
                    Tried to narrow down the list a bit further. Got it to 13. Tried to come up with some rough estimates of what each might require. Add Sjalin to the group I'm most excited about. And actually bump him ahead of Nystrom. Lodin isn't far behind.


                    Nick Cicek (UFA) - 995k

                    Joel Nystrom (2002) - 925k

                    Kyle Jackson (2002) - Where does he get drafted IRL? Same goes for the next three. 750k?

                    Stephen Halliday (2002) - 775k

                    Lucas Edmonds (UFA) - 750k

                    Benjamin King (2002) - 750k

                    Oskari Salminen (UFA) - 1.5

                    Calle Sjalin (UFA) - 1.25

                    Linus Oberg (UFA) - 925k

                    Filip Cederqvist (UFA) - 995k

                    Ryan Fanti (UFA) - 1.25

                    Lukas Sillinger (UFA) - 750k

                    Viktor Lodin (UFA) - 995k
                    Actually scratch Sillinger for now. Would prefer players already owned by NHL teams. Looking through NCAA again, there's actually some really intriguing lower key options: Declan Carlile, Andre Lee, Noah Beck, Matteo Costantini and Matthew Stienburg. Gonna overpay a little for Beck because we need D in the system, and especially for Carlile because Tampa. I'm sure there will be a lot of teams in on Carlile.
                    Last edited by matchesmalone; 07-01-2022, 12:51 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by matchesmalone View Post

                      Actually scratch Sillinger for now. Would prefer players already owned by NHL teams. Looking through NCAA again, there's actually some really intriguing lower key options: Declan Carlile, Andre Lee, Noah Beck, Matteo Costantini and Matthew Stienburg. Gonna overpay a little for Beck because we need D in the system, and especially for Carlile because Tampa. I'm sure there will be a lot of teams in on Carlile.
                      Add Cole Reinhart, Oskar Back, Cam Berg. I'm actually on the fence about Berg and Costantini right now. They're drafted sure but stats look solid yet unspectacular.

                      Stienburg is very intriguing to me. Former 3rd round pick, owned by Colorado. Jumped straight from high school hockey to NCAA so the weak freshman campaign is very excusable. Then Cornell was one of the few teams to shut down completely for covid, and now he was a p/g, albeit already 21.

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                      • I guess I'll leave off Costantini and Berg for now. Still trying to whittle the numbers down. Those two plus Frasca and Sillinger will be the first guys I circle back to if I feel we weren't able to add enough bodies to the system first go-around. We'll have about 10 free contract spots to use. I'd like to add at least 5, and no more than 7 or 8.

                        Nick Cicek - 995k

                        Joel Nystrom - 925k

                        Kyle Jackson - 750k

                        Stephen Halliday - 775k

                        Lucas Edmonds - 750k

                        Benjamin King - 750k

                        Oskari Salminen - 2x1.5 or 3x1.25

                        Calle Sjalin - 1.25

                        Linus Oberg - 750k

                        Filip Cederqvist - 995k

                        Ryan Fanti - 2x1.5 or 3x1.25

                        Viktor Lodin - 1.15

                        Declan Carlile - 1.15

                        Andre Lee - 825k

                        Noah Beck - 825k

                        Cole Reinhart - 800k

                        Oskar Back -925k

                        Matthew Stienburg - 1.15

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                        • Sharks top 20 prospects (with equivalent draft pick value) :

                          Tier I (top 5 OA)
                          1. William Eklund

                          Tier II (top 15 OA)
                          2. Liam Ohgren
                          3. Fyodor Svechkov

                          Tier III (1st round)

                          4. Calle Odelius
                          5. Sasha Chmelevski
                          6. Arvid Soderblom
                          7. Drew O'Connor
                          8. Ville Koivunen
                          9. Reilly Walsh
                          10. Roby Jarventie

                          Tier IV (2nd-3rd round)
                          11. Ben McCartney
                          12. Bryce McConnell-Barker
                          13. Ian Mitchell
                          14. Nolan Allan
                          15. Gavin Hayes

                          Tier V (4th or later)
                          16. Jonathan Aspirot
                          17. Vadim Zherenko
                          18. Hunter Skinner
                          19. Hunter Shepard
                          20. Topias Vilen

                          That top 15 is very strong. Just comparing against when I used to do NHL team rankings, this is a pretty exceptional group. So with free agency we're mainly looking to bolster the bottom quarter of the list, and if we can land one or two in tier IV that would be enormous.
                          Last edited by matchesmalone; 07-03-2022, 03:08 AM.

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                          • Ok I told CBJ and DET that we would wait to see how UFA plays out before making any decisions on Wheeler or Crosby. Looking at our lineup right now we have 21 players on the roster and 14.685 in cap space. A full cohort of 8 regular defensemen. Still waiting for final confirmation on the Bob signing but seems done at 6.25. Add that and Eklund's 3.775 brings us down to 4.66 with a full 23 man roster. To be conservative lets assume it's Chmelevski and his 0.685 we have to send down if we add a player at UFA, not giving us much relief... 4.66+0.685=5.345. So conceivably we could offer Granlund 5.25, but that leaves us extremely little breathing room. I still think Iafallo and Coyle are fairly interesting cheaper options.

                            But alternatively, if we do the Vrana/Tatar deal, take that 5.345+2.75=8.095, and now we have something to work with. To be sure we are on the safe side, I take the difference from Chmelevski to Vesey (in case for some reason we need to call up Vesey over Chmelevski), which is 0.365, and subtract from 8.095, giving 7.73, and that's the number I'd be comfortable giving Forsberg/Giroux/Duchene/Bergeron/Pavelski. Not sure exactly what it's going to take or what we should offer value-wise, but for our cap structure going into next season, that's where we're at.

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                            • Man, sorry this took so long. Some of the players who turned up in the results of my first analysis just weren't good enough, so I needed to change things up. I'm a lot more comfortable with the new ones. You also got me thinking about other teams, which expanded the scope.

                              This is essentially a list of CDC teams with players whose current value should be lower than Thompson's, but whose production values relative to position are reasonably likely to reach his anytime between now and a few seasons from now. It only yields two teams where trades involving only players on the list could make sense - Nashville and Washington. In the other cases, the list only serves to highlight players we should push to include in any deal for Thompson. Alternatively, it can also be used as a list of players to target.

                              In order of value:

                              Nashville: Nico Hischier, Arthur Kaliyev, Anttoni Honka, Chase Stillman
                              Washington: Joel Eriksson Ek, Jonatan Berggren, K’Andre Miller, Fraser Mitten
                              Ottawa: Jesper Bratt, Jamieson Rees, Francesco Pinelli
                              Chicago: Gabriel Vilardi, Marco Rossi, Brandon Duhaime
                              Florida: Brandt Clarke, Martin Chromiak, Alex Laferriere
                              New Jersey: Quinton Byfield, Seamus Casey
                              Vegas: Matt Boldy, Elmer Söderblom, Jordan Spence, Martin Kaut
                              Arizona: Martin Necas
                              Pittsburgh: Logan Thompson, Calen Addison, Robert Mastrosimone
                              Minnesota: Carson Lambos, Alexander Holtz, Marat Khusnutdinov
                              Islanders: Connor Dewar, Patrick Guay
                              Buffalo: Dawson Mercer, Michael Rasmussen
                              Calgary: Fabian Zetterlund, Patrick Puistola
                              Tampa Bay: Joseph Veleno, Ryder Korczak
                              Toronto: Filip Hronek
                              Edmonton: Mason Shaw
                              Boston: Nicolas Roy
                              Dallas: Marco Kasper
                              Anaheim: Rasmus Kupari
                              Philadelphia: Kasper Simontaival
                              Detroit: Jack Peart
                              Los Angeles: Alex Steeves
                              Montréal: Dylan Garand

                              The results produced a few free agents as well. The most difficult to ignore is Amadeus Lombardi. We should sign him!

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                              • Amadeus Lombardi is not eligible to be signed. He'll have to pass through the draft again first.

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