Refs apologize to Sens

[Jasmine]

"I guess it's nice that they're one group that actually did apologize," Senators centre Kyle Turris said outside the team hotel in Sunrise Tuesday morning. "It feels like there could have been a few this year that should have apologized."

Coach Paul MacLean told reporters the referees admitted to the Senators following the team's slump-busting win over the Lightning.

"It's confusing why it's a penalty one way and not the other way," said MacLean. "They apologized to us afterward, but it's too late, then. We need it when the game's going on. We have to work real hard to get the respect back from the rest of the league, but the officials as well, to get ourselves where we can play the game on an even playing field."

By no means are the Senators fault-free. They take way too many bad penalties, lazy penalties, sloppy penalties, penalties because of poor decisions and positioning.

But the least penalized team (San Jose) has been called 121 times fewer than the Senators this season.

"There were obviously some penalties (Monday) we have to be smarter about," said Turris. "But at the same time, we feel like there's some calls that shouldn't have been called, or some calls that we got called for that they didn't, for doing the same thing.

"We have to mentally fight through. We don't agree with the call, but at the same time we can be smarter on certain calls as well."

Complaining doesn't help.


http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/03/25/per ... a-senators

[thedaigle1]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

'bout friggin' time.

[Jasmine]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

Agree...but if they apologized after the game, it also meens there were fully aware during the game... its a shame. How is San Jose managing 121 less calls??

[thedaigle1]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

San Jose has +105 minutes of pure man advantage time to Ottawa's -75

People always defend the NHL's officiating and get romantic over the element of "human error." I can't stand it. If the MLB can overcome 138 years of human error and finally implement failsafe officiating, then why on earth can't the comparatively infantile NHL get over itself and make crucial calls reviewable? Goaltender interference directly affects scoring plays. Is that not worth reviewing? What NHL coach would say no to having a challenge in their back pocket for an obvious miscall in the dying minutes of the game?

[Jasmine]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

I'm one to say everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise. The situation is now beyond human error. There are way too many blatant calls that are either not called, called on one side only, not called at crucial moments in games..and it seems to involve certain refs only. Pretty sure if we go down the history of a few officials, we'll see that they are always tied to stories that took over games..

[Matt the Aussie]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

Tim Peel.

That is all.

[Jasmine]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

Dan O'Rourke comes to mind also...

Now retired Stephane Auger...

[Alfie11]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

Did Stephane Auger screw the Sens over? I don't remember. I know he had the whole Burrows-Canucks incident.

[Alfie11]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

Also, another name to add to the list is Dean Morton. He was the centrepiece of the entire Ottawa - Montreal officiating mess.

The worst call of that game, IMO, was the entire Greening situation. Here's where it goes wrong. Greening is tripped into Carey Price, and a penalty is being called. Greening's momentum from the trip take out Price and then the puck goes in the net. How many times has this been a legal goal in the NHL? I've seen it called a goal over a hundred times, I kid you not. If he's tripped into the goaltender on a breakaway and the puck goes in I've seen it called a goal every time.

The ref went upstairs for quite some time. He said, on the microphone: "A penalty has been called on Montreal #81 tripping. The puck entered the net after the post came off, therefor it is no goal on the play." You can find the video on line...that was his direct quote. So we've established that the ref clearly states the goal is disallowed because the net came off before the puck went in the net. However, here's a direct quote from the situation room in Toronto in regards to the call...

At 14:50 of the second period in the Ottawa Senators/Montreal Canadiens game, the Situation Room initiated video review after the puck entered the Montreal net. The referee informed the Situation Room that after a referee's huddle, it was determined Ottawa's Colin Greening made incidental contact with Montreal's Carey Price prior to the puck entering the net. The referee informed the Situation Room that he had also called a tripping penalty on Montreal's Lars Eller during the play. This is not a reviewable play, therefore the referee's call on the ice stands. No goal Ottawa. Penalty Montreal.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/blogpost.htm?id= ... id=nhl-twt

So wait, now the ref is saying one thing but the NHL is saying another? It sounds to me like he knew that was the wrong call, but he knew if he said the real reason they disallowed the goal then it would obviously make the Senators really questioning him. Among that, there were tons of questionable calls going in Montreal's favour. Turris' hook on Markov was a clear dive..I don't remember who said the quote but "there was a puddle on the ice for him to dive into". Ok, fair enough. On the tying goal, a series of events happened. Vanek is lying on top of Lehner at one point. It was a questionable situation because it appeared Zack Smith made contact with Vanek. However, couldn't the goal still be called back for incidental contact with the goaltender then? Earlier in the game, Montreal caused Price to be interfered with on a goal and it didn't count for that reason. Now, when Ottawa does the exact same, it's called differently. Hmmm. Greening was also tripped in the final 15 seconds..that was pretty obvious. Much more of a penalty than Turris'. Finally, the winner was a strange one. It appeared that Lehner had the puck covered, then the puck trickled out a bit. But you're telling me the ref didn't lose sight of the puck at all there? Yeah...that's doubtful.

I heard it best when I heard someone say "just listen to the refs accent". I've never seen home ice advantage like Montreal gets. But I've never seen it that bad. For the record, it's the Sens fault they blew the lead and collapsed.

[Jasmine]

Re: Refs apologize to Sens

Did Stephane Auger screw the Sens over? I don't remember. I know he had the whole Burrows-Canucks incident.

I don't recall Auger and the Sens being linked in any way..but I was using his name as a reference that some refs have a history of taking over some games because they have Ego issues. ;)