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  • Top 20 Sens prospects

    Here is my list. Feel free to discuss. I will revise after the draft, but I just couldn't wait until then.

    1. Cutis Lazar - RW/C - If I had to pick one NHL comparison, it would be David Legwand. Tempting to say with more upside, but keep in mind, Legwand was a second overall pick in '98; had he played for another team besides Nashville, he might have been a perennial 70 point-scorer in his prime. Pretty similar players.

    2. Mark Stone - RW - Probably more offensive upside than Lazar. I'd say 60+ points in his prime would be a safe bet. 70? Not unlikely, for maybe a season or two. If he ever breaks 80 at the NHL level, I would be very pleasantly surprised.

    3. Chris Driedger - G - Still has a long way to go, but definitely has NHL starter potential.

    4. Marcus Högberg - G - Sweden might have won gold at the World Juniors if he'd been in net. He was one of only four goalies under 20 to play in the Swedish Allsvenskan this year. The other three played a combined five games, while he played 13. He then got into 4 SHL regular season games, posting 1.08 GAA and .960 Sv% and getting the start for the playoffs before getting pulled in favor of Christian Engstrom, who won them the first two playoff series, but then was thoroughly shellacked by eventual champions Skelleftea 3-0 and 8-2. Högberg came back in and at least gave his team a chance, stopping 36 of 39 shots in a 4-1 loss in game three. The next game, facing elimination, apparently seeing that giving his team a chance wouldn't be enough against the powerhouse Skelleftea, he stole the game 1-0, stopping 37 shots. It was one of Skelleftea's only two losses of the entire playoffs. Högberg doesn't turn 20 until October. In the playoffs he blew a number of leads against weaker opposition, but stood on his head against superior teams, indicating that he still needs to learn that at the pro level he needs to bring his A-game each and every night, regardless of the situation or opposition. But with his skillset and 6'5 frame, if he can do that, he could be a starting goalie in the NHL someday, at least. Still another one or two years in SHL and after that another one or two years in AHL before he sees time in the NHL.

    5. Fredrik Claesson - D - For someone who is supposed to be a pure stay-at-home defenseman, he put up better offensive numbers in the SHL than the likes of Nicklas Hjalmarsson, Johnny Oduya and Henrik Tallinder at the same age. And he was simply incredible in the AHL this season.

    6. Cole Schneider - RW - I've talked before about his steep developmental curve; and everything I've heard about him - from his size, skating, ability to protect the puck, and willingness to drive the net and get to the dirty areas - suggests there is no reason to think that upward swing won't continue on into the NHL.

    7. Chris Wideman - D

    8. Derek Grant - C - Very little offensive upside, but should be a staple on our third or forth line and penalty kill for the next decade.

    9. Matt Puempel - LW - A bit of a project who still needs a lot of work, but tons of goal-scoring potential. Reminds me of Alexander Frolov.

    10. Ryan Dzingel - F - I don't wanna get too worked up over a nine game sample size, but after two big offensive years at Ohio State, and seven points in a nine game AHL stint, there is definitely top-six potential there. Considering he has decent size at 6' and 190lb, and is still fairly young, having just turned 22, I'm starting to get excited about this prospect.

    11. Shane Prince - LW - A longshot with some top six potential. He'll need a big AHL year this year.

    12. Mike Hoffman - LW/C - Huge year in the AHL, but still hasn't made a major impact at the NHL level... tick tock.

    13. Mikael Wikstrand - D - Good young defenseman with a lot of upside, but still question marks as to how well his play translates to the North American game.

    14. Jean-Gabrielle Pageau - F - Looked like a sure thing two years ago, and was excellent in the AHL this year, but struggled mightily at the NHL-level, and his size might be his downfall.

    15. Mark Borowiecki - D - His size and toughness and play away from the puck make him an asset, but he's still a liability with the puck on his stick.

    16. Robbie Baillargeon - F

    17. Buddy Robinson - RW - Lots of size, some offensive talent, and still fairly young. Hoping for a Bryan Bickel/ Patrick Maroon type breakout from him at some point.

    18. Max McCormick - LW - Solid two-way forward project.

    19. Michael Sdao - D - Big, tough, and nasty. His fighting skills should ensure he sees NHL time at some point, but he'll have to play decent enough hockey if he wants to stay there.

    20. Tobias Lindberg - F

  • #2
    Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

    superb, as usual

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    • #3
      Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

      I'd love to be able to discuss this but I know very little on these guys. As Victor already said, great work man.

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      • #4
        Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

        Do Montreal, Mr. Scout.

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        • #5
          Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

          Originally posted by Dean Ambrose
          Do Montreal, Mr. Scout.
          I don't know nearly as much about Habs prospects - or any other team for that matter - as I do about the Sens. But I can try to see if I can put something together. Might take a while.

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          • #6
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            You should get into scouting, legit. I remember the old posts from the other board. I haven't kept up with prospects since then.

            I wish that site was still up because I remember that blog I wrote about one of the drafts.

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            • #7
              Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

              Great list. The only thing I would change is moving Matt Puempel, moving him up two spots above Chris Wideman. I agree he has learning to do, such as his defensive game, but you can't teach his goal-scoring ability. He scored 30 goals in his first year in the AHL, and did it three times (never playing more than 59 games) in the OHL.

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              • #8
                Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

                Originally posted by Alfie11
                Great list. The only thing I would change is moving Matt Puempel, moving him up two spots above Chris Wideman. I agree he has learning to do, such as his defensive game, but you can't teach his goal-scoring ability. He scored 30 goals in his first year in the AHL, and did it three times (never playing more than 59 games) in the OHL.
                You raise a valid point. Weaknesses aside, 30 goals for an AHL rookie is pretty damn impressive. I'd have no issue bumping him up past Grant, but Wideman is a pretty hot commodity after the season he had. Josh, I seem to recall you were pretty high on Wideman, what do you think?

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                • #9
                  Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

                  I didn't really follow Binghamton much this year, and didn't realize Chris Wideman put up 50+ points. That is pretty impressive. I'd say he needs to make the leap within the next two to three years as he's already 24, though.

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                  • #10
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                    Defensemen take a lot longer though. It's a tough call, to be honest. They do both belong above Grant in my opinion, but I'm not firm on either of them being above the other.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

                      Considering Hoffman, Pageau, and Stone as likely graduated, my favorite prospects left are:

                      G - Chris Driedger
                      LD - Mark Borowiecki (Stay at Home)
                      C - Curtis Lazar
                      C/LW - Ryan Dzingel
                      LW - Matt Puempel
                      LW - Alexander Guptill

                      We need offensive defensemen and right wingers in the 2015 draft.

                      LW - Shane Prince wants out of Ottawa. I say trade his ass for a 2nd.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

                        Five new prospects crack the top twenty, with two coming in from the Spezza trade, and three from this year's draft. You know we've got an incredibly deep group of prospects when you've got guys like Borowiecki and Pageau as low as they are, and Robinson and Baillargeon, who I consider legit NHL prospects, not even making the cut. The downside, of course, is that after the top four, there's a drop-off, and not a whole lot separating number five from number twenty.

                        1. Cutis Lazar - RW/C

                        2. Mark Stone - RW

                        3. Chris Driedger - G

                        4. Marcus Högberg - G

                        5. Fredrik Claesson - D

                        6. Cole Schneider - RW

                        7. Chris Wideman - D

                        8. Matt Puempel - LW

                        9. Derek Grant - C

                        10. Ryan Dzingel - F

                        11. Andreas Englund - D - Sounds like a good bet to be a top four, 19-22 minute type stay-at-home and shutdown defender.

                        12 Nick Paul - LW - North Bay made it to the OHL finals with an extremely low-scoring and defensively stingy team. Paul was second on the team in goal-scoring both in the regular season and playoffs. Probably will never be a serious offensive threat at the NHL level, but looks like the kind of player who helps a team win come playoff time.

                        13. Mike Hoffman - LW/C

                        14. Alex Guptill - LW - Seems like he has pretty good upside, but I've done a bit of digging since we acquired him and it sound like he has a lot of discipline / attitude type issues.

                        15. Shane Prince - LW

                        16. Mikael Wikstrand - D

                        17. Shane Eiserman - LW - Power forward starting college in the fall, and with three of UNH's top five forwards graduating, Eiserman will get a chance to jump right into a prominent offensive role - likely on the top line - and so could skyrocket up this list by the end of next season, provided he makes the most of it.

                        18. Jean-Gabrielle Pageau - F

                        19. Mark Borowiecki - D

                        20. Miles Gendron - D - Major project and longshot but sounds like he could have just about as much upside as any prospect in our system.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

                          Originally posted by Josh
                          Defensemen take a lot longer though. It's a tough call, to be honest. They do both belong above Grant in my opinion, but I'm not firm on either of them being above the other.
                          Another solid year in the AHL and Wideman could be competing for a spot on the 2015-16 opening roster.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

                            Originally posted by matchesmalone
                            Five new prospects crack the top twenty, with two coming in from the Spezza trade, and three from this year's draft. You know we've got an incredibly deep group of prospects when you've got guys like Borowiecki and Pageau as low as they are, and Robinson and Baillargeon, who I consider legit NHL prospects, not even making the cut. The downside, of course, is that after the top four, there's a drop-off, and not a whole lot separating number five from number twenty.

                            1. Cutis Lazar - RW/C

                            2. Mark Stone - RW

                            3. Chris Driedger - G

                            4. Marcus Högberg - G

                            5. Fredrik Claesson - D

                            6. Cole Schneider - RW

                            7. Chris Wideman - D

                            8. Matt Puempel - LW

                            9. Derek Grant - C

                            10. Ryan Dzingel - F

                            11. Andreas Englund - D - Sounds like a good bet to be a top four, 19-22 minute type stay-at-home and shutdown defender.

                            12 Nick Paul - LW - North Bay made it to the OHL finals with an extremely low-scoring and defensively stingy team. Paul was second on the team in goal-scoring both in the regular season and playoffs. Probably will never be a serious offensive threat at the NHL level, but looks like the kind of player who helps a team win come playoff time.

                            13. Mike Hoffman - LW/C

                            14. Alex Guptill - LW - Seems like he has pretty good upside, but I've done a bit of digging since we acquired him and it sound like he has a lot of discipline / attitude type issues.

                            15. Shane Prince - LW

                            16. Mikael Wikstrand - D

                            17. Shane Eiserman - LW - Power forward starting college in the fall, and with three of UNH's top five forwards graduating, Eiserman will get a chance to jump right into a prominent offensive role - likely on the top line - and so could skyrocket up this list by the end of next season, provided he makes the most of it.

                            18. Jean-Gabrielle Pageau - F

                            19. Mark Borowiecki - D

                            20. Miles Gendron - D - Major project and longshot but sounds like he could have just about as much upside as any prospect in our system.
                            Great rankings. It's crazy to see how far Pageau has fallen after a really strong playoffs in 2013.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Top 20 Sens prospects

                              From what I've heard, Lazar has been the best player at the WJC camp. He had a goal in the Czech win, and a hat-trick and four points against Russia last night. Nick Paul was apparently also great in the two games, and picked up a goal and an assist as well as some PK time.

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